For the record, the framers were Deists, meaning they believed in a Supreme being, a Creator, who did, in fact (from their perspective) create the Earth, and all the men on it (equally in their eyes), and even smiled on our undertakings (Annuit Cœptis). At that time, the idea of a country having no official religion was unheard of. Every nation had one, and it was almost always whatever religion the leader of that country followed. Our framers saw too many people persecuted for trying to follow the religions they were used to, and they thought that everyone should just live and let live when it comes to religion. They felt that if the nation had no official religion, then no one should be persecuted for following whatever religion they chose. If they even chose one. It was not to “subdue” anyone, neither Christian, Jew, nor Muslim. Quite the opposite, it was to ensure that even the less-often practiced religions could be practiced freely without fear of government interference. (Bigoted neighbors was their problem.)

If you must know, I am atheist. I do not believe in such things as gods, and I do not believe our existence is the result of any actions taken by such a being. I do no fear going to Hell, for I do not believe in such a place.

Have a nice day. Vaya con dios.

I also find it not just Christian but base human morally repugnant that at your supported Military Religious Freedom Foundation Website at http://militaryreligiousfreedom.org/ the video Why MRFF starts out comparing our US Soldiers to Terrorists when the video starts out it shows a Suicide Bomber with a rifle and Koran then shows US Army Soldiers with rifles and Bibles.

Say what you want believe what you want but now you are trying to tear down Christians like you say they are doing to you. Kind of reverse prodigious!

There’s one thing I remember very strongly from school, 5th or 6th grade, I think. We have freedom of religion in this country, and that means we have freedom FROM religion as well.

My teacher would probably get in a lot of trouble for saying that these days.

These types of divisions will get much worse before they get better. Scary times…

As for “El Rushbo”, I’ve been trying to dop some research on the subject and it sounds like as long as the danger was not imminent that a riot would erupt from his words, he can say them. The convention is months away, so they would have ahard time linking his words to someone else’s actions. Now, as we get closer to the convention, if he keeps saying these things, he may face legal trouble.

But I’m no lawyer.

If that wasn’t meant to incite violence…

Saaay… you wouldn’t have anyt’ing ta eat around here, wouldya?

As for the civil war, I sure hope not. Because the religious ones will be absolutely certain that they have God on their side, and will never see the need to surrender. And an enemy who thinks he has God on his side is a very dangerous enemy.

I read the NY Times article early this morning and was going to post the Times piece at the Zoo, Wayne. Ya bet me to it… I should have walked away from that last dozen ham ‘n egg tarts.